After watching the three movies of The Chronicles of Narnia I have come to the conclusion that Narnia can be called whatever you want to call it, but it is not a series that has been inspired by God. There is no possible way that it could be. This is my reason why…
I believe that the Bible and God are the final authorities, and anything that defies them or preaches otherwise is, in essence, evil. With that said, I would like to show you a few things to support my statement about Narnia.
In the book The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, Lucy is given a task to enter an invisible mansion and recite a spell to turn Dufflepuds, a wizard, and Aslan visible again. In the Bible spells like these are referred to as “familiar spirits”, “mediums”, “the fire”, etc.
“There shall not be found among you anyone who makes is son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,” Deuteronomy 18:10
Aslan makes Lucy do this as a “trial” or “test of her faith”. However, this verse specifically says that no one should give a trial to someone in this manner.
“Give not regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 19:31
After Lucy’s trial is complete a wizard is revealed and the four children must consult him to find their next destination. Again, this is forbidden by God.
“or one who conjures spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you.” Deuteronomy 18:11-12
In The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe Susan is sent back to the White Witch’s lair to bring the creatures back to life after being turned to stone. This also is an abomination. Before anyone takes anything for an allegory or says, “But it’s supposed to symbolize…” first take a look at what is being used to symbolize it. For example: many people say that Harry Potter is an allegory, yet any well discerning Christian would know better than to fall for that. Why, however, should we not call Harry Potter an allegory? A true Christian would say, “Because it strongly uses magic and magic is forbidden by God.” But Harry Potter symbolizes the good and the light in the world, so wouldn’t that cancel out all the bad magic. I mean after all the magic in Harry Potter is being used for good. Again, a true Christian that knows the Bible would say, “God forbids the use of magic.” That same Christian, however, will turn right around and praise Narnia for being a great allegory. What is the difference between the two? Because Narnia’s hero looks more like a Christ Savior than Harry Potter? This is foolishness and not just by my definition.
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
As I stated before, I believe that anything that deifies God and/or the Bible or contradicts them or anything like that is, in essence, an appearence of evil.
“Abstain from all appearance of evil.” 1 Thessalonians 5:22
Narnia is not in any way, shape, or form inspired by God. The God that the Bible speaks of, and the God that I know and follow, does not press a point in the Bible as far as the subject of witchcraft is pressed, and then turn around and inspire a story that relies on the use of magic. If you think for one second that He would do such a thing, then I pray for you.
“But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.” Galations 1: 8-9
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1. I use the dictionary and the Bible's definition of "magic". The dictionary says, "1. The art that purports to control or forcast natural events, effects, or forces by invoking the supernatural. 2. The practice of using charms, spells, or rituals to attempt to produce supernatural effects or control events in nature." When you look up witchcraft it will list magic and sorcery listed among its definitions.
2. To write an allegory using mere human thoughts would flaw the translation of the gospel story so much that it wouldn't be considered an allegory. C.S. Lewis' Narnia series is so flawed allegory wise that it obviously wasn't inspired by God. You will see in History and in the Bible that anything God inspires has major effects on the world AND WILL ALWAYS TURN THE PEOPLE BACK TO THE BIBLE. Narnia does not do that. It trappes the readers in the wonder of Narnia and they use that as their witnessing tool or such. "Out of the heart the mouth speaks."
4. All of the situations that I brought up are directly from the book. Those are what I'm making my argument on. I have not read the books and quite frankly I think they would be just as flawed if such a big part of the stories are already this flawed. It doesn't matter if the movies were inspired by God. The movies portray what is written. I am not substituting the books for the movies, but I am bringing out parts that can be found in both.
Lastly, you say that because I haven't read the books this makes my argument discredited. I am providing situations found in the books and comparing them with what the Word of God says. So you want to say that the Word of God is discreditable? Unless you can show me the fine print at the bottom of the page that says, "Everything that has been stated above becomes void if you would like to use magic for good or to illustrate a point or to symbolize something.". You will find no such print. Not at the bottom, foreward, index, etc. THERE ARE NO "ANDS", "IF'S", OR "BUT'S" IN THE BIBLE.
C.S. Lewis was involved in the occult for a good period of time during his childhood and he talks about it quite often in his autobiography. So he knew exactly what he was talking about when he said magic. If he wanted an allegory then why didn't he just call the power what it was? Why disguise it? Why not call it the Holy Ghost or the Power of God?
"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."
Sounds like what C.S. Lewis did to symbolize Jesus and His power.
Andy? You're alive?
Obviously someone cares or there wouldn't be any replies to this discussion.
Hmm I found this discussion interesting.
I do agree, witchcraft is wrong, but I don't believe the magic used in Narnia had to do with that. (the bad guys, yes)
I think C.S. Lewis decided to use magic in his books for an important reason. He knew everyone who would read would be human. Unfortunately for us human's, we just don't have the capacity to understand God fully. He is so complex and his power is unexplainable! To put all that into a story is beyond us to write. So, I believe he chose to use magic, this is something similar and easier for us to understand. So in other words I think the "magic" used in the story is to symbolize God's power.
And I know what your going to say. "Magic is still magic" yes, I understand, but if you were in C.S. Lewis's shoes what would you use to describe God's awesome power?
Mind you, this is just my opinion and another one I just wanted to throw out there.
Magic in no way is simple. It is very complex. And why would C.S. Lewis use magic instead of something like the power's actual name to symbolize it? Why would he make it look like it's ok for Christians to use magic when the time calls for it?
Yes, magic is complex, but its easier for us to relate to then God's awesome power.
What would you use then? Say your writing a book inspired by God and you wanted to describe his power. What would you use so that even a small child would understand a taste of God's power?
I find it very very disturbing that a Christian can fing MAGIC easier to relate to. There is already something wrong there.
To describe God's power: The power of the God is extrodinary! It flows through us and is a part of us when we become part of God's army. It is so powerful that it cannot be defied by any sorcerors of magic or the mightiest wizards! It is not hidden away to be brought back up through spells or chants to spirits. It is accessed through one name. A very simple name. Jesus.
You say magic is relatable? I just used magic to describe God's power without calling God's power magic. In fact I brought out how powerful it is by using magic in a relatable way. A child knows how powerful wizards and magic is because of their video games and fantasy books, so yes I used magic to tell of how God's power is amazing. A way that a child would understand, because anything that outdoes magic and wizards is pretty amazing! I used magic without actually calling it magic. There are ways
I'm not just talking about Christians though. C.S. Lewis made the book for everyone and almost everyone knows magic as a power. When we describe something we don't understand a lot of the time our first reaction (mostly for non Christians) is that we think it must be magic.
Good! Thats a great definition Now, how would you explain it in a book that anyone would be interested to read? This book would describe God and pull us to him even if we weren't Christians, but to appeal to that group you can't bluntly say God because most of the time non Christians will shy away from those books.
I think C.S. Lewis was using magic to appeal to all audiences. And even if they weren't Christians show them a taste of the real world with God's power.
It seems your quite stubbornly going to keep believing what you believe and ill continue to do the same. I'm getting tired so I think I'm going to stop. Pray about it though. Thats what I'm doing. Asking God to open my heart and show me his truth.
I don't understand how a non-believer is going to pick up the allegory. Even if they do how are they going to know that he's talking about Christianity? The allegory isn't exactly definitive on which religion it's talking about. As for putting my definition in a book? Put it in the way it's written. Have one character describing it to another. Easy. I also find it a little shocking then that C.S. Lewis would compromise the Bible so that he could get a bigger audience.
I posted a couple of links up top at the bottom of the discription that might help everyone understand how important it is not to change what God says or create exceptions to His Word.
What do you mean "Aslan just used the magic because it was there?" HE CREATED THE WORLD!
The movies do not portray the books, especially the 3rd one. Ya know the green mist? Doesn't exist in the book. There is no dark island. In the 2nd book, one of the first things Peter says is that they came to put Caspian into his throne. Not so in the movie. His attitude was horrible, but that attitude was nowhere in the book.
And why won't you accept that the magic in Narnia is different than the magic forbidden by God? You might as well say that the Codebearer books aren't then. Bloodstone, magical seed bringing up the magical tree that magically restores Solandria? Magically transported through trees, magically transported to the Maze; the Codebearers series is full of magic!